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[I] Monkeys [message #257471] So, 16 April 2006 04:56
Torak  
Monkeys. Fear the monkeys. Never forget the monkeys.

That is all. This has been a public sevirce diversion, sponsored by the
Ministry for Being Nice (Except To Monkeys) and containing the statutory
typo.
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #257490 ] So, 16 April 2006 05:51
Puck  
Torak wrote:
> Monkeys. Fear the monkeys. Never forget the monkeys.
>
> That is all. This has been a public sevirce diversion, sponsored by
> the Ministry for Being Nice (Except To Monkeys) and containing the
> statutory typo.

Are orangutans still okay? I mean, is it only monkeys we must fear, or is it
all primates, apes included? Because, Kansas City School Board aside, we are
all about four evolutionary rungs from flinging our filth at people (much
fewer in many cases).

--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #257497 ] So, 16 April 2006 08:21
Mixu Lauronen  
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 06:51:14 +0300, Puck <Kormos.4 [at] osu.edu> wrote:

> Because, Kansas City School Board aside, we are all about four
> evolutionary rungs from flinging our filth at people (much fewer in many
> cases).
>
Ooo, I thought it was the other way around. I mean, I thought the humen
had taken the evolutionary step of flinging their filth at others. Just
look at our amount of waste. Or the White House.
--
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Re: [I] Monkeys [message #257504 ] So, 16 April 2006 09:18
Eric Jarvis  
Torak perry_awm [at] hotmail.com wrote in <4oi0g.9441$zc1.6027 [at] amstwist00>:
> Monkeys. Fear the monkeys. Never forget the monkeys.
>

Why? Surely they are too busy singing to get anybody down?

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #257512 ] So, 16 April 2006 11:34
Andy Davison  
On Sunday 16 April 2006 03:56, Torak wrote:

> Monkeys. Fear the monkeys. Never forget the monkeys.
>
> That is all. This has been a public sevirce diversion, sponsored by the
> Ministry for Being Nice (Except To Monkeys) and containing the statutory
> typo.

Well, don't forget that saying "thin" cures you of monkeys on the knee. No
doubt other words are available for other body parts. I expect you could
get a grant to do research into which words are appropriate for monkeys on
various areas of the body.
--
Andy Davison
andy [at] oiyou.force9.co.uk
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #257528 ] So, 16 April 2006 12:40
Torak  
Puck wrote:
> Torak wrote:
>
>>Monkeys. Fear the monkeys. Never forget the monkeys.
>>
>>That is all. This has been a public sevirce diversion, sponsored by
>>the Ministry for Being Nice (Except To Monkeys) and containing the
>>statutory typo.
>
> Are orangutans still okay? I mean, is it only monkeys we must fear, or is it
> all primates, apes included? Because, Kansas City School Board aside, we are
> all about four evolutionary rungs from flinging our filth at people (much
> fewer in many cases).

Yes, apes are fine.
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #257529 ] So, 16 April 2006 12:41
Torak  
Eric Jarvis wrote:
> Torak perry_awm [at] hotmail.com wrote in <4oi0g.9441$zc1.6027 [at] amstwist00>:
>
>>Monkeys. Fear the monkeys. Never forget the monkeys.
>>
>
>
> Why? Surely they are too busy singing to get anybody down?

That's what they *want* you to think.
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #257581 ] So, 16 April 2006 17:34
pjamison2  
"Puck" <Kormos.4 [at] osu.edu> wrote in message
news:e1sf3h$ieo$1 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> Torak wrote:
>> Monkeys. Fear the monkeys. Never forget the monkeys.
>>
>> That is all. This has been a public sevirce diversion, sponsored by
>> the Ministry for Being Nice (Except To Monkeys) and containing the
>> statutory typo.
>
> Are orangutans still okay? I mean, is it only monkeys we must fear, or is
> it
> all primates, apes included? Because, Kansas City School Board aside, we
> are
> all about four evolutionary rungs from flinging our filth at people (much
> fewer in many cases).
>

I have to make a correction. It's not just Kansas City, it's the school
board for the whole blasted state. Believe me, I'm not happy to be this
pedantic.

Personally, orangutans are fine. Who's going to tell them otherwise?

--

Paul E. Jamison

"I traveled to a planet with no bilateral symmetry
and all I got was this lousy F-shirt."
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #257590 ] So, 16 April 2006 18:08
Mary Messall  
Puck wrote:
> Because, Kansas City School Board aside, we are
> all about four evolutionary rungs from flinging our filth at people (much
> fewer in many cases).

As a former Kansas Citian, I still feel compelled to correct
people on this...

Kansas City is more than half in Missouri ('cause it used to be
part of "Kansas Territory," that's why). It's the state of Kansas
that you mean.

-Mary

--
The blog I said I'd never write --
http://viewfromthecorner.blogspot.com
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #257705 ] So, 16 April 2006 23:47
Puck  
MetaMary wrote:
> As a former Kansas Citian, I still feel compelled to correct
> people on this...
>
> Kansas City is more than half in Missouri ('cause it used to be
> part of "Kansas Territory," that's why). It's the state of Kansas
> that you mean.

Sorry about that. I tend to ignore the entire midwest in the fervent hope
that it will extend me the same courtesy.
--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #257757 ] Mo, 17 April 2006 05:37
April Goodwin-Smith  
"Eric Jarvis" wrote ...
> Torak wrote:
>> Monkeys. Fear the monkeys. Never forget the monkeys.
>
> Why? Surely they are too busy singing to get anybody down?
>

Hey, hey.....


April.
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #258579 ] Do, 20 April 2006 13:10
Rgemini  
Eric Jarvis wrote:
> Torak perry_awm [at] hotmail.com wrote in <4oi0g.9441$zc1.6027 [at] amstwist00>:
>> Monkeys. Fear the monkeys. Never forget the monkeys.
>>
>
> Why? Surely they are too busy singing to get anybody down?
>

What a howler!
Re: Monkeys [message #258637 ] Do, 20 April 2006 23:22
annafruen  
Aw, leave 'em alone. They're just trying to be friendly.
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #259183 ] So, 23 April 2006 23:32
Sofia  
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:18:16 +0100, Eric Jarvis wrote:

>>
>
> Why? Surely they are too busy singing to get anybody down?


Hate to say this Eric, but you sound as if you've been completely
brainwashed by that new multi-apes football commercial that's just
appeared on TV for a "Go Wild" anti-perspirant or something, all going
absolutely berserk, and too busy singing, ranting, and raving to give damn
about what anybody else is doing. :-)


All the best


Sofie

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Re: [I] Monkeys [message #259185 ] So, 23 April 2006 23:34
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach Sofia:

> On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:18:16 +0100, Eric Jarvis wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>> Why? Surely they are too busy singing to get anybody down?
>
>
> Hate to say this Eric, but you sound as if you've been
> completely brainwashed by that new multi-apes football
> commercial that's just appeared on TV for a "Go Wild"
> anti-perspirant or something, all going absolutely berserk,
> and too busy singing, ranting, and raving to give damn
> about what anybody else is doing. :-)

Actually he's quoting one of the all-time classics of late
1960s televison...

--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"[Wolverine]'s in every book. I think he just joined
the JLA, and for some reason he's in the revised
Penguin edition of Little Dorrit." -Joss Whedon
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #259442 ] Mo, 24 April 2006 23:09
Sofia  
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 21:34:04 +0000, Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:

>> On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:18:16 +0100, Eric Jarvis wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why? Surely they are too busy singing to get anybody down?
>>
>>
>> Hate to say this Eric, but you sound as if you've been
>> completely brainwashed by that new multi-apes football
>> commercial that's just appeared on TV for a "Go Wild"
>> anti-perspirant or something, all going absolutely berserk,
>> and too busy singing, ranting, and raving to give damn
>> about what anybody else is doing. :-)
>
> Actually he's quoting one of the all-time classics of late
> 1960s televison...


It was just a little joke on Eric, as IMO he's a cute little football
freak, who'd do almost anything to have much more time singing, ranting,
and raving like the apes going completely bursar in the ad'(though I doubt
it would be for England). :-)


All the best


Sofie

--
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Re: [I] Monkeys [message #259445 ] Mo, 24 April 2006 23:12
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach Sofia:

> On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 21:34:04 +0000, Daibhid Ceanaideach
> wrote:
>
>>> On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:18:16 +0100, Eric Jarvis wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why? Surely they are too busy singing to get anybody
>>>> down?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hate to say this Eric, but you sound as if you've been
>>> completely brainwashed by that new multi-apes football
>>> commercial that's just appeared on TV for a "Go Wild"
>>> anti-perspirant or something, all going absolutely
>>> berserk, and too busy singing, ranting, and raving to
>>> give damn about what anybody else is doing. :-)
>>
>> Actually he's quoting one of the all-time classics of late
>> 1960s televison...
>
>
> It was just a little joke on Eric, as IMO he's a cute
> little football freak, who'd do almost anything to have
> much more time singing, ranting, and raving like the apes
> going completely bursar in the ad'(though I doubt it would
> be for England). :-)

I have absolutely no idea where you get that image of Eric
from, especially not the bit where he wouldn't support
England...

--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"[Wolverine]'s in every book. I think he just joined
the JLA, and for some reason he's in the revised
Penguin edition of Little Dorrit." -Joss Whedon
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #259477 ] Di, 25 April 2006 00:30
Eric Jarvis  
Daibhid Ceanaideach daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com wrote in
<Xns97AFE20B45EB5daibhid [at] 130.133.1.4>:
> Also Sprach Sofia:
>
> > On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 21:34:04 +0000, Daibhid Ceanaideach
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:18:16 +0100, Eric Jarvis wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Why? Surely they are too busy singing to get anybody
> >>>> down?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hate to say this Eric, but you sound as if you've been
> >>> completely brainwashed by that new multi-apes football
> >>> commercial that's just appeared on TV for a "Go Wild"
> >>> anti-perspirant or something, all going absolutely
> >>> berserk, and too busy singing, ranting, and raving to
> >>> give damn about what anybody else is doing. :-)
> >>
> >> Actually he's quoting one of the all-time classics of late
> >> 1960s televison...
> >
> >
> > It was just a little joke on Eric, as IMO he's a cute
> > little football freak, who'd do almost anything to have
> > much more time singing, ranting, and raving like the apes
> > going completely bursar in the ad'(though I doubt it would
> > be for England). :-)
>
> I have absolutely no idea where you get that image of Eric
> from, especially not the bit where he wouldn't support
> England...
>

If FIFA recognised Kernow I'd have no problem deciding my loyalties.
Though admittedly I'd probably still be supporting England in the World
Cup. Though Bahrain (where I was born) not only got very close this time
around, but also the team that beat them in a play off are drawn in
England's group.

OTOH I have no idea where "cute" comes from.

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #259849 ] Di, 25 April 2006 23:37
Sofia  
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:30:11 +0100, Eric Jarvis wrote:

> If FIFA recognised Kernow I'd have no problem deciding my loyalties.
> Though admittedly I'd probably still be supporting England in the World
> Cup. Though Bahrain (where I was born) not only got very close this time
> around, but also the team that beat them in a play off are drawn in
> England's group.
>
> OTOH I have no idea where "cute" comes from.


I didn't say I was *confirming* the fact that you didn't support "England"
my dear Eric, just doubting it, as I wasn't quite sure - my reason being
that the England football team think they're so good, yet they always seem
to lose.

Can I also add a personal reason here too - that I'm certainly not a
monarchist, and IMO the England team are really patriotic to stand there
and sing "God Save The Queen" before every game, that it just really gets
on my nerves.

Sorry if you don't see yourself as "cute" Eric, but as a third party
looking on, I love watching you talk continuously at the afpmeets, and I'm
keeping that cute little toy monster thingy next to my computer as a lucky
charm too- could you tell me what you said it was called again, I've
forgotten?


All the best


Sofie

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Re: [I] Monkeys [message #259856 ] Di, 25 April 2006 23:52
alec  
In article <pan.2006.04.25.21.37.12.7004 [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com>,
pinkmonster2000REMOVE [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com says...
> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:30:11 +0100, Eric Jarvis wrote:
>
> > If FIFA recognised Kernow I'd have no problem deciding my loyalties.
> > Though admittedly I'd probably still be supporting England in the World
> > Cup. Though Bahrain (where I was born) not only got very close this time
> > around, but also the team that beat them in a play off are drawn in
> > England's group.
> >
> > OTOH I have no idea where "cute" comes from.
>
>
> I didn't say I was *confirming* the fact that you didn't support "England"
> my dear Eric, just doubting it, as I wasn't quite sure - my reason being
> that the England football team think they're so good, yet they always seem
> to lose.

When did the propensity to lose ever stop people being fans? On the
contrary, the true fan is the one who sticks with his team as they
plunge. The ones who only stick with winners are not fans, they are mere
fair-weather friends.
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #259863 ] Mi, 26 April 2006 00:01
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach Alec Cawley:

> In article <pan.2006.04.25.21.37.12.7004 [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com>,
> pinkmonster2000REMOVE [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com says...
>> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:30:11 +0100, Eric Jarvis wrote:
>>
>> > If FIFA recognised Kernow I'd have no problem deciding
>> > my loyalties. Though admittedly I'd probably still be
>> > supporting England in the World Cup. Though Bahrain
>> > (where I was born) not only got very close this time
>> > around, but also the team that beat them in a play off
>> > are drawn in England's group.
>> >
>> > OTOH I have no idea where "cute" comes from.
>>
>>
>> I didn't say I was *confirming* the fact that you didn't
>> support "England" my dear Eric, just doubting it, as I
>> wasn't quite sure - my reason being that the England
>> football team think they're so good, yet they always seem
>> to lose.
>
> When did the propensity to lose ever stop people being
> fans? On the contrary, the true fan is the one who sticks
> with his team as they plunge. The ones who only stick with
> winners are not fans, they are mere fair-weather friends.

While I have no interest in football, my experience of
Scotland fans confirms this. The difference being that, deep
down, we *know* we're going to lose...

--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"[Wolverine]'s in every book. I think he just joined
the JLA, and for some reason he's in the revised
Penguin edition of Little Dorrit." -Joss Whedon
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #259911 ] Mi, 26 April 2006 03:56
bbottorff  
> While I have no interest in football, my experience of
> Scotland fans confirms this. The difference being that, deep
> down, we *know* we're going to lose...

That never stopped Cubs fans. Or, for that matter, Red Sox, who finally
did something.

You want "know we're going to lose"? I'm a Detroit Lions fan!
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #259916 ] Mi, 26 April 2006 04:26
Puck  
Boyd Bottorff wrote:
>> While I have no interest in football, my experience of
>> Scotland fans confirms this. The difference being that, deep
>> down, we *know* we're going to lose...
>
> That never stopped Cubs fans. Or, for that matter, Red Sox, who
> finally did something.
>
> You want "know we're going to lose"? I'm a Detroit Lions fan!


Cleveland Browns fan over here. And the Cleveland Indians too, a team that
(a mere ten years ago) was famously bad enough to have a popular film
franchise based solely on their loserosity. In recent years they have gotten
much better, though.

And consider the Cavs, or rather don't consider the Cavs because nobody else
does. It isn't so much that they are bad, as they fail to register at all.
Ask a basketball fan to name the first ten teams that come to mind and the
Cavs will not be mentioned.

--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #259944 ] Mi, 26 April 2006 07:59
steelcat  
In article <pan.2006.04.25.21.37.12.7004 [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com>,
Sofia <pinkmonster2000REMOVE [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com> wrote:

>and IMO the England team are really patriotic to stand there
>and sing "God Save The Queen" before every game,

Souldn't that be "matriotic"?

Cat.
--
Jazz-Loving Soul Mate and Tolerable Frog to CCA
I am a leaf on the wind. Watch me soar.
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #259959 ] Mi, 26 April 2006 10:34
Gideon Hallett  
Eric Jarvis wrote:

> Daibhid Ceanaideach daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com wrote in
> <Xns97AFE20B45EB5daibhid [at] 130.133.1.4>:
>> Also Sprach Sofia:
>>
>> > On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 21:34:04 +0000, Daibhid Ceanaideach
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>> On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:18:16 +0100, Eric Jarvis wrote:
<snip>

>> I have absolutely no idea where you get that image of Eric
>> from, especially not the bit where he wouldn't support
>> England...
>>
>
> If FIFA recognised Kernow I'd have no problem deciding my
> loyalties.

Feh; it's a godforsaken strip of caravans and bog and rocks stuck on
the nasty end of the West, with a recurrent tendency to steal all
of Devon's stuff and claim it was their own.

(Tintagel excepted. They managed to produce that manifest
excrescence all by themselves.)

They support the wrong side in any given civil war, they speak a
funny language, and they've got suspicious links to dubious places
like Wexford.

The only reason you'd want to recognise it would be to able to avoid
it.

*g*

Gideon.

--
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o__))))) | - Bringing permed '70s-retro hedgehogs to the =|
__ \'((((( | common people since he got bored one afternoon. =|
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #259982 ] Mi, 26 April 2006 12:14
Eric Jarvis  
Gideon Hallett diogenes [at] freeuk.com wrote in <e2nbbj$2jlq$1 [at] mud.stack.nl>:
> Eric Jarvis wrote:
>
> > Daibhid Ceanaideach daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com wrote in
> > <Xns97AFE20B45EB5daibhid [at] 130.133.1.4>:
> >> Also Sprach Sofia:
> >>
> >> > On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 21:34:04 +0000, Daibhid Ceanaideach
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>> On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 08:18:16 +0100, Eric Jarvis wrote:
> <snip>
>
> >> I have absolutely no idea where you get that image of Eric
> >> from, especially not the bit where he wouldn't support
> >> England...
> >>
> >
> > If FIFA recognised Kernow I'd have no problem deciding my
> > loyalties.
>
> Feh; it's a godforsaken strip of caravans and bog and rocks stuck on
> the nasty end of the West, with a recurrent tendency to steal all
> of Devon's stuff and claim it was their own.
>

Since when did Devon have stuff? And anyway if it wasn't Cornish it should
have been nailed down.

> (Tintagel excepted. They managed to produce that manifest
> excrescence all by themselves.)
>

Possibly. It's amazing what you can do on the proceeds of a bit pf
wrecking here and there.

> They support the wrong side in any given civil war, they speak a
> funny language, and they've got suspicious links to dubious places
> like Wexford.
>
> The only reason you'd want to recognise it would be to able to avoid
> it.
>
> *g*
>

You're only jealous because the Damn English took over Devon first and
built Plymouth to try to put the Cornish off. :)

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #259993 ] Mi, 26 April 2006 14:34
bbottorff  
> > You want "know we're going to lose"? I'm a Detroit Lions fan!
>
>
> Cleveland Browns fan over here. And the Cleveland Indians too, a team that
> (a mere ten years ago) was famously bad enough to have a popular film
> franchise based solely on their loserosity. In recent years they have gotten
> much better, though.
>
> And consider the Cavs, or rather don't consider the Cavs because nobody else
> does. It isn't so much that they are bad, as they fail to register at all.
> Ask a basketball fan to name the first ten teams that come to mind and the
> Cavs will not be mentioned.

No, but Lebron James might.

That's my beef with basketball, really. By and large, the NBA has
gotten away from the concept of "team" sport, and it's a much duller
game to watch. I'm not interested in the "Lebron James show", or the
"Kobe Bryant show", or anything like that. There are supposed to be
five guys you're rooting for, not one.
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #260005 ] Mi, 26 April 2006 15:33
Mary Messall  
Boyd Bottorff wrote:
>>While I have no interest in football, my experience of
>>Scotland fans confirms this. The difference being that, deep
>>down, we *know* we're going to lose...
> That never stopped Cubs fans.

I dunno. With Cubs fans, 98 years of futility, and repeated
recent evidence that the fates are out to get us (the fan
interference that cost us a trip to the world series in 2003,
Prior and Wood eternally on the DL, Derek Lee breaking his wrist
right after he signs his new contract, completely unrelated to
the pitcher's injury on the *same play*...) and all our
intellectual knowledge don't stop us from believing, deep down,
past the cynicism... Just wait 'till next year!

> Or, for that matter, Red Sox, who finally
> did something.

And so did the White Sox! Salt in the wound!

> You want "know we're going to lose"? I'm a Detroit Lions fan!

Heh. Even Bears fans feel sorry for you. <g>

-Mary

--
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http://viewfromthecorner.blogspot.com
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #260017 ] Mi, 26 April 2006 16:21
Gideon Hallett  
Eric Jarvis wrote:

> Gideon Hallett diogenes [at] freeuk.com wrote in
> <e2nbbj$2jlq$1 [at] mud.stack.nl>:
>> Eric Jarvis wrote:
>>
>> > Daibhid Ceanaideach daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com wrote in
>> > <Xns97AFE20B45EB5daibhid [at] 130.133.1.4>:
>> >> Also Sprach Sofia:
>> >>
<snip>

>> > If FIFA recognised Kernow I'd have no problem deciding my
>> > loyalties.
>>
>> Feh; it's a godforsaken strip of caravans and bog and rocks stuck
>> on the nasty end of the West, with a recurrent tendency to steal
>> all of Devon's stuff and claim it was their own.
>>
>
> Since when did Devon have stuff?

Well, since you can actually grow things and raise livestock (other
than sheep) in Devon, it has a greater propensity to produce stuff
than the place next door.

(That's why Cornwall's sources of revenue involved wreckers and
highwaymen. Jamaica Inn and so forth...)

> Possibly. It's amazing what you can do on the proceeds of a bit pf
> wrecking here and there.

Destroy a few shops in Tintagel and you could supply half the
world's geological museums with humourously shaped bits of quartz
and cheap semi-precious stones.

>> The only reason you'd want to recognise it would be to able to
>> avoid it.

> You're only jealous because the Damn English took over Devon first

Note that the West has always been one of the last places to be
invaded, whether it be by Angles or Vikings. We may eventually have
to give into the forriners, but we make them pay through the nose
first.

> and built Plymouth to try to put the Cornish off. :)

The Cornish were certainly keen enough to visit Plymouth in 1642.

And we still managed to keep them out for two years - until they
finally gave up and ran back to their holiday caravans ;)

cheers,

Gideon.

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Re: [I] Monkeys [message #260036 ] Mi, 26 April 2006 17:31
Flesh-eating Dragon  
Boyd Bottorff wrote:

> There are supposed to be five guys you're rooting for, not one.

I'm charging you with cruelty to Australians. You will be promptly
sent to the barracks until you learn what to do with them.

Adrian.
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #260069 ] Mi, 26 April 2006 20:18
Eric Jarvis  
Gideon Hallett diogenes [at] freeuk.com wrote in <e2nvkm$2aa$1 [at] mud.stack.nl>:
> Eric Jarvis wrote:
>
> > Gideon Hallett diogenes [at] freeuk.com wrote in
> > <e2nbbj$2jlq$1 [at] mud.stack.nl>:
> >> Eric Jarvis wrote:
> >>
> >> > Daibhid Ceanaideach daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com wrote in
> >> > <Xns97AFE20B45EB5daibhid [at] 130.133.1.4>:
> >> >> Also Sprach Sofia:
> >> >>
> <snip>
>
> >> > If FIFA recognised Kernow I'd have no problem deciding my
> >> > loyalties.
> >>
> >> Feh; it's a godforsaken strip of caravans and bog and rocks stuck
> >> on the nasty end of the West, with a recurrent tendency to steal
> >> all of Devon's stuff and claim it was their own.
> >
> > Since when did Devon have stuff?
>
> Well, since you can actually grow things and raise livestock (other
> than sheep) in Devon, it has a greater propensity to produce stuff
> than the place next door.
>
> (That's why Cornwall's sources of revenue involved wreckers and
> highwaymen. Jamaica Inn and so forth...)
>

It's all about making the best of the available options. It's all changed
now. There's no need to wreck ships when you can sell overpriced crap to
tourists perfectly legally. We Cornish move with the times.

> > Possibly. It's amazing what you can do on the proceeds of a bit pf
> > wrecking here and there.
>
> Destroy a few shops in Tintagel and you could supply half the
> world's geological museums with humourously shaped bits of quartz
> and cheap semi-precious stones.
>

This is, of course, a completely insane idea and without any question not
a plan that has even vaguely begun to consider the possibility of crossing
anyone's mind. The high explosives are intended for the proposed Bodmin
Canal which will allow shipping to avoid Lands End and the Lizard by
sailing through a narrow canal with cliffs on either side. Which should
also be handy for the main roads.

> >> The only reason you'd want to recognise it would be to able to
> >> avoid it.
>
> > You're only jealous because the Damn English took over Devon first
>
> Note that the West has always been one of the last places to be
> invaded, whether it be by Angles or Vikings. We may eventually have
> to give into the forriners, but we make them pay through the nose
> first.
>

See, typical Devon backwardness. The trick is to get them to pay through
the wallet or the bank account. Few outside of Devon keep their money in
their nose.

> > and built Plymouth to try to put the Cornish off. :)
>
> The Cornish were certainly keen enough to visit Plymouth in 1642.
>
> And we still managed to keep them out for two years - until they
> finally gave up and ran back to their holiday caravans ;)
>

We just finally realised that whilst Plymouth is too close to Cornwall,
it's the people of Devon who actually have to live in it. :)

--
eric
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"live fast, die only if strictly necessary"
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #260138 ] Mi, 26 April 2006 23:32
Thomas Zahr  
Alec Cawley posted:

....

> When did the propensity to lose ever stop people being
> fans? On the contrary, the true fan is the one who sticks
> with his team as they plunge. The ones who only stick with
> winners are not fans, they are mere fair-weather friends.

Yeah, FC Koelns recent history is one big exercise in
character building for the fans.

--
Ciao

Thomas =:-)
<www.kochkinder.de>
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #260170 ] Do, 27 April 2006 00:56
Torak  
The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:
> In article <pan.2006.04.25.21.37.12.7004 [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com>,
> Sofia <pinkmonster2000REMOVE [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>and IMO the England team are really patriotic to stand there
>>and sing "God Save The Queen" before every game,
>
>
> Souldn't that be "matriotic"?




I still think we could do with a better anthem. Why not relegate GSTQ to
"Monarch's Anthem" (like in Sweden) and use Rule Britannia or something
as a national anthem?
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #260225 ] Do, 27 April 2006 05:40
raymond larsson  
In article <e2mlp4$ibv$1 [at] charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, Puck says...

> And consider the Cavs, or rather don't consider the Cavs because nobody else
> does. It isn't so much that they are bad, as they fail to register at all.
> Ask a basketball fan to name the first ten teams that come to mind and the
> Cavs will not be mentioned.

LBJ, Zee, D(rew not wight) Gooden . You're right , completely fail to
register.

OK ten teams: Raps and Griz, former Canadian NBA teams; Celts and
Lakers; Globetrotters?; Pandas and Bears; Ducks and Beavers; and Sixers,
Blazers, and Suns and SuperSonics . Right again, even the Braves come to
mind before the Cavs.

--
rgl a lone voice in the wilderness
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #260226 ] Do, 27 April 2006 05:40
raymond larsson  
In article <cUS3g.10143$zc1.1456 [at] amstwist00>, Torak says...

> The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:
> > Sofia <pinkmonster2000REMOVE [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>and IMO the England team are really patriotic to stand there
> >>and sing "God Save The Queen" before every game,
> >
> > Souldn't that be "matriotic"?
>
> I still think we could do with a better anthem. Why not relegate GSTQ to
> "Monarch's Anthem" (like in Sweden) and use Rule Britannia or something
> as a national anthem?

Why, you don't get many anthems with lyrics like 'her fascist regime'?

--
rgl never been farther east than Central Park West
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #260235 ] Do, 27 April 2006 08:47
Jenny Delaney  
Gideon Hallett wrote:
> Eric Jarvis wrote:

>>> I have absolutely no idea where you get that image of Eric
>>> from, especially not the bit where he wouldn't support
>>> England...
>>>
>> If FIFA recognised Kernow I'd have no problem deciding my
>> loyalties.
>
> Feh; it's a godforsaken strip of caravans and bog and rocks stuck on
> the nasty end of the West, with a recurrent tendency to steal all
> of Devon's stuff and claim it was their own.
>
> (Tintagel excepted. They managed to produce that manifest
> excrescence all by themselves.)
>
> They support the wrong side in any given civil war, they speak a
> funny language, and they've got suspicious links to dubious places
> like Wexford.

I dunno, it's not like he's even a real West Country lad - he's from the
suburbs of Brizzle anyway! Eric, don't worry about the wazzock.

Jen
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #260247 ] Do, 27 April 2006 10:31
Gideon Hallett  
Jenny Delaney wrote:

> Gideon Hallett wrote:
>> Eric Jarvis wrote:

>> They support the wrong side in any given civil war, they speak a
>> funny language, and they've got suspicious links to dubious
>> places like Wexford.
>
> I dunno, it's not like he's even a real West Country lad - he's
> from the suburbs of Brizzle anyway!

By which yardstick, you come from the Dublin commuter belt.

What was that about glass houses and stones, dear?

G.

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Re: [I] Monkeys [message #260252 ] Do, 27 April 2006 10:48
Gideon Hallett  
Eric Jarvis wrote:

> Gideon Hallett diogenes [at] freeuk.com wrote in
> <e2nvkm$2aa$1 [at] mud.stack.nl>:
>> Eric Jarvis wrote:
>>
>> > Gideon Hallett diogenes [at] freeuk.com wrote in
>> > <e2nbbj$2jlq$1 [at] mud.stack.nl>:
>> >> Eric Jarvis wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Daibhid Ceanaideach daibhidchenedelh [at] aol.com wrote in
>> >> > <Xns97AFE20B45EB5daibhid [at] 130.133.1.4>:
>> >> >> Also Sprach Sofia:


>> (That's why Cornwall's sources of revenue involved wreckers and
>> highwaymen. Jamaica Inn and so forth...)
>>
>
> It's all about making the best of the available options. It's all
> changed now. There's no need to wreck ships when you can sell
> overpriced crap to tourists perfectly legally. We Cornish move
> with the times.

I'm still surprised no-one has suggested that all of the old tin
mines be turned over to the Home Office.

They could be used as new prisons.

Or, come to that, as affordable housing for Cornish people; you
wouldn't even have to repaint...

> This is, of course, a completely insane idea and without any
> question not a plan that has even vaguely begun to consider the
> possibility of crossing anyone's mind. The high explosives are
> intended for the proposed Bodmin Canal which will allow shipping
> to avoid Lands End and the Lizard by sailing through a narrow
> canal with cliffs on either side.

And there'd be all that handy rock that you could throw down on
passing ships, too.

One small problem; you'd have to make the canal quite big, or the
first ship you sank would then block the entire thing.

> Which should also be handy for the main roads.

Cornwall has main roads? Where?

(Apart, of course, from 'out of Cornwall'...)

>> Note that the West has always been one of the last places to be
>> invaded, whether it be by Angles or Vikings. We may eventually
>> have to give into the forriners, but we make them pay through the
>> nose first.
>>
> See, typical Devon backwardness. The trick is to get them to pay
> through the wallet or the bank account. Few outside of Devon keep
> their money in their nose.

Bless 'ee, we don't keep it in *our* noses. We keep it in other
peoples' noses. And when the noses in question comprise the cocaine
set in Torquay, you're talking about a pretty reasonable storage
space.

>> The Cornish were certainly keen enough to visit Plymouth in 1642.
>>
>> And we still managed to keep them out for two years - until they
>> finally gave up and ran back to their holiday caravans ;)

> We just finally realised that whilst Plymouth is too close to
> Cornwall, it's the people of Devon who actually have to live in
> it. :)

Thankfully, this isn't the case. Plymouth is a bit too close to
Cornwall to be fully populated by human beings, so we put the
mad'uns there, and give them lots of ugly urban architecture to
keep them subdued.

Which, apart from all else, leaves the rest of us to enjoy the
Arcadian splendours of all that nice green fertile countryside[1].

Gideon.

[1] Like Princetown. Or Exeter. Or Babbacombe.

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Re: [I] Monkeys [message #260270 ] Do, 27 April 2006 11:38
Torak  
raymond larsson wrote:
> In article <cUS3g.10143$zc1.1456 [at] amstwist00>, Torak says...
>>The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:
>>>Sofia <pinkmonster2000REMOVE [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>and IMO the England team are really patriotic to stand there
>>>>and sing "God Save The Queen" before every game,
>>>
>>>Souldn't that be "matriotic"?
>>
>>I still think we could do with a better anthem. Why not relegate GSTQ to
>>"Monarch's Anthem" (like in Sweden) and use Rule Britannia or something
>>as a national anthem?
>
> Why, you don't get many anthems with lyrics like 'her fascist regime'?

Eh?
Re: [I] Monkeys [message #260279 ] Do, 27 April 2006 11:47
Gideon Hallett  
Torak wrote:

> raymond larsson wrote:
>> In article <cUS3g.10143$zc1.1456 [at] amstwist00>, Torak says...
>>>The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:
>>>>Sofia <pinkmonster2000REMOVE [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>and IMO the England team are really patriotic to stand there
>>>>>and sing "God Save The Queen" before every game,
>>>>
>>>>Souldn't that be "matriotic"?
>>>
>>>I still think we could do with a better anthem. Why not relegate
>>>GSTQ to "Monarch's Anthem" (like in Sweden) and use Rule
>>>Britannia or something as a national anthem?
>>
>> Why, you don't get many anthems with lyrics like 'her fascist
>> regime'?
>
> Eh?

As in;

"God save the queen
'cos tourists are money
and our figurehead
is not what she seems"

Go talk to Messrs Jones, Matlock, Cook and Rotten...

(And the song in question was #2 in the chart the week of the Silver
Jubilee.)

cheers,

Gideon.
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